Concerns About John Piper

Standard

John Piper has definitely written some great books, and many people have been blessed by his teachings.  Lately, however, John Piper is acting a bit strange.  He may lose support, with very good reason.  Go to the links, read, and decide for yourself.

~ The infamous, “endure abuse for a season” video.

~ His declaration that God gave Christianity a “masculine feel“.

~ His support for a faltering organization.

~ Or this post from 2007, which states that any man who endorses women in combat is a wimp.  Here’s a quote from the article ~

“Suppose, I said, a couple of you students, Jason and Sarah, were walking to McDonald’s after dark. And suppose a man with a knife jumped out of the bushes and threatened you. And suppose Jason knows that Sarah has a black belt in karate and could probably disarm the assailant better than he could. Should he step back and tell her to do it? No. He should step in front of her and be ready to lay down his life to protect her, irrespective of competency. It is written on his soul. That is what manhood does.” ~ John Piper

So let me get this straight…real “manhood” means letting someone get the tar beat out of him while someone who is competent to prevent the beating has to stand by and do nothing, because she’s a woman.  That’s  “Biblical manhood”?  Here’s a great response by Jenny Rae Armstrong on the subject ~

“The really interesting thing here is that while Piper acknowledges that gender stereotypes do not always line up with reality, and that clinging to traditional gender roles is not always the most efficient, effective way of getting things done, he insists that it is right to cling to them anyway, even at the cost of life, limb, and a competent woman’s conscience. It seems to me that this is because he views masculinity, femininity, and the relationship between men and women as symbolic, almost a Christianized version of Plato’s Theory of Forms. In this paradigm, the individual is subsumed by the ideal, the here-and-now human relationship by the eschatological one it points toward. It doesn’t matter if Sarah has a black belt, and Jason is physically handicapped in some way–the important thing is that they live up to some cosmic ideal of manhood and womanhood, as a way of representing God and humanity’s relationship with Him.”

I’m wondering, how many mistakes and missteps should we tolerate from prominent teachers and leaders before they lose credibility?  Are the things John Piper written and said in the past enough to cover the hurtful, even nonsensical things he has said lately?

Advertisements

About creativehomeschooler

I'm a homeschooling mom of two creative children. I created this blog to highlight the things I'm thankful for during my days. It can be a challenge to homeschool, but I try to look at the grace my children and I experience. And these kids come up with some neat projects, so I hope to encourage and inspire others who may be reading.

7 responses »

  1. “I’m wondering, how many mistakes and missteps should we tolerate from prominent teachers and leaders before they lose credibility? Are the things John Piper written and said in the past enough to cover the hurtful, even nonsensical things he has said lately?” I hope the same, way too many mistakes about gender from this man…mistakes that harm others. Peopel ned to wake up, not only following this man but many folks at CBMW, like Mary Kassian and her stupid statement on domestic violence, or many others….they show their true colors with such statements, maybe they don´t have bad intentions (many don´t) but their tehology comes apat with such stupid, unlogical, unrealistic statements…

  2. Once is a mistake, twice is a pattern unless it is repented from. Piper has not (yet) repented from his masculinism and this is what I pray for him to do. Unless and until he repents, I expect more of the same incoherence from him in the gender area.

  3. Piper seems to have the view that unless you view things as he does you miss the beauty of the genders. How God would have you view them.

    God also gave us common sense, and no doubt he intended us to use it. It’s sad that Piper can’t use his at times.

  4. Heartbreaking, Mr. Piper. I’d like to see him try and explain that one to Mother Teresa. It’s so sad that someone who has so much influence in ministry can say things like that. God isn’t male, He existed before the idea of male and female, nor did Jesus come to earth as male because He wanted us to associate Christianity with masculinity. I certainly don’t think of my faith as gender based.

  5. Don’t hold your breath for Piper or Grudem ever repenting for their sins of fostering male idolatry. They have too much pride and time invested in their perverted ideology to ever consider that they might be possibly wrong. I doubt even a divine intervention from God would change their minds about the error of their hierarchical beliefs. The eternal subordination of Christ is complete nonsense, and amounts to a different gospel. The hubris they exhibit is beyond belief and I have caught Grudem misquoting and lying more than once in defense of his complementarian views. Sorry, but it about time to recognize these so called “brothers” in the Lord are misleading the sheep, twisting Scripture and preaching anything but good news. We are dealing with spiritual warfare direct from the enemy of God. It is amazing the time and effort they spend on trying to prove their point, excluding women from ministering the Word of God, causing pain and suffering on woman, preventing the advance of the Gospel just to maintain their male hierarchical structure. Both these individuals had experienced serious problems in the marriage for years because of their macho attitude. Judgement begins in the house of God, with church “leaders” and those who exercise influence over others. No one is perfect, including myself, but I won’t be called to account for preventing one half of the body of Christ from preaching or teaching the Gospel.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s